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Post  ayresyboy on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:06 am

Well the Yokohama tyres I wanted are pretty expensive. I've gone for Falken 452's instead.

The rain hasn't stopped me and I fitted one of the rears today to figure out what size spacer I need to run.

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Looks like 40mm to get the outer most part of the tyre flush with the bodywork. I know it's hard to tell from the photo.

I don't think the tyre is supposed to be absolutely flush though is it? Yes it looks nicer but performance wise all cars wheels and tyres sit inside the arch a bit. Is that right?

So maybe 30mm spacer here is the best to go for? What does everyone think?

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Post  Admin on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:12 am

I wouldspace them to match originals - if you space them to match outside of car they will rub on the underside of the arch when you go over a bump etc - makes a horrible noise and damages the paint and tyre. Been there, seen it, wouldn't go back there! LOL

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Post  ayresyboy on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:16 am

Yes this is what I want to avoid. Trouble is I don't know what size spacers I need to make it same as original. confused
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Post  Admin on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:17 am

Tell me the wheel and tyre sizes and Ill work it out

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Post  ayresyboy on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:20 am

I don't know the wheel offsets. I think the rear is 17x8 or 17x8.5. Tyres are 245/40
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Post  Admin on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:33 am

Original correct sizes are:

Fronts: 17x7JJ+13 fitted with a 215/40 R17 tyre

Rear: 17 x 8.5JJ+7 fitted with a 245/40R17 tyre

Now if we put those sizes in:

http://91mr2.com/wheel-and-tire-calculator/

we get:

Front flushness: 9.65mm out from flush

Rear flushness: 22mm out from flush

Front optimal flushness: 22.65mm

Rear optimal flushness: 29mm

Front suspension proximity: 40.35mm from possibly touching the suspension

Front comparison: 44.7mm further out than old wheel

Rear comparison: 57.05mm further out than old wheel

So thats what you need to aim for.

You can work out your et by placing a straight edge across the back of the hub then measuring the perpendicular distance from the straight edge to the hub mating surface on the wheel then subtract that distance from the width of the wheel divided by 2. (sounds complicated but is not - just remember that the ET is the plus or minus of the mating surface from the centre of the wheel width.

Once you know the ET then just add all the details in the link then keep changing the ET until you get same results as me and the amount you had to change it by is the width of spacer.

Cant go wrong rodders!! ;-')

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Post  Admin on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:38 am

Here you go just google this for you as my explanation is not so good! LOL

https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#backspace

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Post  jack on Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:50 am

any updates on this? I'm following with keen interest Very Happy

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Post  ayresyboy on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:21 pm

Well I waved goodbye to it on 22nd Aug. It's off to Patrick for some much needed TLC.

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and work started very quickly

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I tore a bit of the rear bumper off as some of you may know. The front bumper has also been cracked due to the car being so low. There were a few other bits n pieces with the bodywork that I was unhappy about.

This prompted me to get a whole respray in Toyota Super Red. More importantly this is going with the theme of taking it back to the original. It's currently a Ferrari colour, which I do love, but really want it to be all Toyota.

Other work is mostly internal wiring and odd bits n bobs.
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Post  ayresyboy on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:22 pm

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Post  Admin on Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:04 am

After the respray will you be putting the proper wheels on too......????!!! :-)

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Post  ayresyboy on Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:49 pm

If I find a pair of rear Alumi K's that are the right size/offset, I'll put them on ;-)
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Post  Admin on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:09 pm

Ah just get em on!

Ive just put on a new set on my daily :-)

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Post  jack on Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:30 am

Good move on the respray, I can't believe it was ever changed from the original colour given how rare it is!! are the lines for the side strips being put back in as I remember they had filled with paint from the previous respray? Also, how come the end caps on the spoiler are silver??
Agreed on the wheels, they definitely finish the car off nicely Cool

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Post  jack on Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:38 am

Also, what is wrong with your current rear Alumi K's? I thought you were having issues with the front brakes and the rear wheels needed spacing out slightly? Did you solve the clearance issue on the front?

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Post  ayresyboy on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:49 am

Don't worry, I've instructed Patrick (headcase) to put the lines back in. With him being a fellow TRD fan anyway, I could have not told him and he would have done it automatically. :-)

I'll see how much time Patrick has and how much funds I have left with regards to removing the big brakes for the front wheels and getting spacers for the rears.

The end caps were an addition by the previous owner. Patrick kindly gave me some plastic ones that will fit in nicely and look original when painted up.

I also have the seats and harnesses to fit properly along with the steering wheel. Hopefully I will find an original head unit and get the premium sound system back up and running as well.
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Post  Infamous on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:03 pm

Looking forward to seeing the car when all of the aforementioned work has been completed. Cool

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Post  Admin on Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:05 am

+1

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Post  ayresyboy on Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:24 pm

Work has been continuing swiftly. Big thanks to Patrick. The front and rear bumpers had a lot of old paint on them and he is having to strip them right back!

Under body has been sealed.

TRD exhaust has had dent removed; the top of the can heat painted; with the bottom and tail pipes polished up eventually.

Trims have been satin blacked to get the red paint off that was there from last time.

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Post  Admin on Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:50 pm

Looking good - should look like a new car when all done! :-)

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Post  ayresyboy on Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:40 pm

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The bumpers have been a nightmare! Just the front to do here.
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Post  ayresyboy on Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:42 pm

Went to see this in the flesh. It's coming along very nicely. Thank you so much for the hard work you have put in Patrick :clap:

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Post  ayresyboy on Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:44 pm

And thanks to Andy for donating his n/a lid. My TRD is n/a and proud of it!

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Below you can see the old engine lid in the Ferrari Red. It's hard to tell the difference in the photo, but in real life the Ferrari Red is very orange whereas the Toyota Red is red Very Happy

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Post  ayresyboy on Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:48 pm

Some stellar work carried out last Saturday. Arrived at Patrick's with a load of interior parts. By the end of the day, the pile was gone!

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Post  Admin on Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:55 pm

Looking good! :-)

ps put the proper wheels on!!!! LOL

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